tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post5204140913756140519..comments2024-03-26T02:31:48.024-05:00Comments on Trollsmyth: Whither DUNGEON and DRAGON?trollsmythhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-72618866228356985902015-01-08T23:06:16.298-06:002015-01-08T23:06:16.298-06:00"With the existence of the internet, DRAGON c..."With the existence of the internet, DRAGON can’t be the social hub and font-of-all-news they were back in the 21st century."<br /><br />I think you meant 20th century. We're in the 21st century right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-23471046648008133242015-01-04T10:15:26.643-06:002015-01-04T10:15:26.643-06:00Antony Brotherton:
It's the age old problem ...<b>Antony Brotherton:</b> <br /><br /><i>It's the age old problem of RPGs, once you've sold me the core rule books why do I need to buy anything else.</i><br /><br />Yep. The solution to that appears to be really dramatic stuff, like entire campaigns of linked adventures (Pathfinder), heavily thematic stuff like Raggi's work, really exceptional stuff like Zak's work, or exceptionally cool ideas like Jeff's work.<br /><br />And while it would be cool to see the magazines serve as a sort of proving grounds for up-and-comers, the 'net means WotC doesn't need it anymore. The way to get noticed isn't to submit to publications, but to go out and publish yourself.<br /><br />That said, I think WotC could find value in guiding and grooming the third-party publishers via the magazines. However, it likely won't be direct value; the magazines would almost certainly publish at a loss in and of themselves, so that might make them a hard sell.trollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-70967111627709906672015-01-04T07:39:04.794-06:002015-01-04T07:39:04.794-06:00Trollsmyth: Totally familiar with OPD and I often ...Trollsmyth: Totally familiar with OPD and I often pillage them for ideas but agree with you they fall into that category somewhere between a sidetrek and a dungeon scenario. I never run any published material as is anyway so conversion to my campaign world is not a problem.<br /><br />I'd be happy if it returned in an adventure path, but I did like that it was a submission vehicle for fans to become officially recognised writers.<br /><br />The "official" tag and the recognition that goes along with it is essentially what other web only authors can't provide.<br /><br />The question for WotC is not can they produce it, but can they sell it as a print product and make a profit?<br /><br />It's the age old problem of RPGs, once you've sold me the core rule books why do I need to buy anything else.Tony Bro001https://www.blogger.com/profile/18402548073906815503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-11487077318666679872015-01-04T05:32:36.409-06:002015-01-04T05:32:36.409-06:00It's really, really sad that a paragraph sayin...It's really, really sad that a paragraph saying something obvious (you can play with gay/transgender/etc.) and a few pictures with non-white-male-european characters is seem as "going off the deep end into SJW territory".Kimblehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01448247187607436035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-40137999258922271942015-01-03T10:45:19.584-06:002015-01-03T10:45:19.584-06:00Antony Brotherton: are you familiar with the One P...<b>Antony Brotherton:</b> are you familiar with the <a href="http://www.onepagedungeon.info/" rel="nofollow">One Page Dungeon Contest</a>? Granted, none of them go into the detail that many of the short adventures in <i>DUNGEON</i> did, but that just makes them easier to drop into my campaign.<br /><br />If <i>DUNGEON</i> does return in any form, expect it to take a page from Paizo's book and focus heavily on entire campaign's worth of connected "adventure paths." Either that, or be full of side-quests for the official adventures campaign du jour. trollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-26758559136046087962015-01-03T10:39:46.559-06:002015-01-03T10:39:46.559-06:00Scott Anderson: I understand what you mean about b...<b>Scott Anderson:</b> I understand what you mean about biting the hand that feeds, but there's more to it than that.<br /><br />The magazines have to offer stuff I can't get off the web for free. I'll sing the praises of DRAGON's run through the '80s to the rafters, but the truth is, I get more awesome ideas in a month just from <i>D&D With Pornstars</i> than I got from my entire multi-decade collection of <i>DRAGON</i>s. There's a reason people are talking about today as a golden age in RPGs. <br /><br />Simply doing what <i>DRAGON</i> did in the 20th century, as awesome as it was, won't fly today. G+ just does it all better. trollsmythhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01895349218958093151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-52682715966701361242015-01-03T06:46:12.002-06:002015-01-03T06:46:12.002-06:00Personally, I miss Dungeon as an invaluable resour...Personally, I miss Dungeon as an invaluable resource for short scenarios. It satisfied a particular function for me filling in the gaps between bigger adventures and expanding existing worlds with "bonus content"<br /><br />However, it was always hard to get hold of it in the UK, either via dedicated retailers, or by placing an order at your newsagent. <br /><br />On the whole Dragon never appealed as it was much more "industry" or "rules" focussed, though to be fair odd articles were excellent and thought provoking. <br /><br />Even though the market still exists for that type of "official" content, I doubt it would be cost effective to produce a high quality print magazine and distribute outside the US. That's what the web is for and WotC should definitely bring it back in some electronic format (or POD via Lulu/DTRPG).<br /><br />If it doesn't happen, ah well... I'll just rely on all the freely available OSR content. Tony Bro001https://www.blogger.com/profile/18402548073906815503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-37202212738794348982015-01-03T01:56:55.255-06:002015-01-03T01:56:55.255-06:00What do you mean about SJWs in the magazines? Like...What do you mean about SJWs in the magazines? Like if they decide to include more non whites in the art and in general be more inclusive?<br /><br />What'l constitutes a deep end?NewbieDMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01907379255366298914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28751902.post-67976352642068491872015-01-02T15:57:59.015-06:002015-01-02T15:57:59.015-06:00If the content providers and editors don't go ...If the content providers and editors don't go off the deep end into SJW territory, people will buy the magazine. If it's about the hobby, filled wih average to above average stuff, doesn't cost a lot, and doesn't attack it's can base, a magazine can thrive. <br /><br />That's a lot of "ifs" however. Scott Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12067161332003628237noreply@blogger.com